Dark Ambient Interview:
Mombi Yuleman
I first became aware of
dark ambient artist Mombi Yuleman when our paths crossed on Twitter
and he sent me a code for his Storm-Maker Red Horse album.
Since that time, I’ve come to appreciate Mombi’s particular brand
of dark ambient music, something that I’d describe as part retro
horror soundtrack and part “spirit of Halloween in a bottle”.
Mombi kindly agreed to an interview, the result of which you can read
below. We take in such topics as John Carpenter’s soundtracks, our
joint experience of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, religion, music as
a means of communication, and of course, dark ambient.
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Casey: You are
known for your monster-fuelled, mysterious dark ambient albums, but
your music didn’t begin with the genre. How did you discover
ambient, and the dark ambient genre in particular, what do you enjoy
about creating this style of music, and what role does your love of
horror soundtracks play in the way that you create?
Mombi: I got
into music production over ten years ago with an industrial project
called "Junkyard Apocalypse". I was really inspired by
artists like Front Line Assembly and Dismantled but more than
anything I was inspired by film scores and soundtracks. I grew up
listening to composers like Jerry Goldsmith, Ennio Morricone, and
most of all John Carpenter. The soundtrack stuff is what I mostly had
playing in my ears from as far back I remember. So the cinematic
element was very important to me when creating my own music.
After I created an
album and some demos, I pretty much dropped "Junkyard
Apocalypse" and music as a whole for many years for various
reasons. During this period of time I was heavy into creating
industrial sculptures and housewares out of found objects. I called
this project "Junkyard Avenue". I had a YouTube channel at
the time showing how I created these weird lamps and art decor out of
metal pipes, pulleys, and giant gears. Much of it had a steampunk
theme. I'd listen to a lot of those soundtracks I grew up with while
building artwork, but I remember specifically trying to find
soundscapes that sounded like a factory in the distance, with steam
and metal clangs to further enhance the atmosphere when I was
creating these things at home. I found out about an industrial noise
act called Stratvm Terror that I fell in love with, and that's when I
discovered some mixes by Cryo Chamber on YouTube as well. This would
have been circa 2012 or so.
After some years, the
"Junkyard Avenue" project fell through because I was moving
so much, and carrying hundreds of pounds of found objects from state
to state is exhausting. It was sad because I didn't have a passion
project anymore. So, after some time I started going to music
festivals. Particularly psytrance parties. These events inspired me
to get into music again. While, I wasn't attempting to make psytrance
music, I thought I would get into weird cinematic influenced EDM
again. I branded myself as Mombi Yuleman and churned out a six track
EDM EP. It was a good way of getting familiar with a DAW again. I had
a lot of trouble getting my ideas together for a second release.
I was listening to all
kinds of genres within the underground dance scene. Stuff like dark
techno, psytrance, psychill. Thing is, rather than take a genre and
really learn it and craft pieces that fell within those genres, I
would take ideas from those genres and form my own EDM sound. And in
all honesty, many of those tracks were never sounding quite right to
me. Too many ideas and not enough focus. One of the things that was
recurring within all of these sounds though, was a cinematic mood
driven element. My girlfriend would put on a lot of ambient music at
night time to sleep to. Some of these tracks were often quite bleak
and mood driven. Even cinematic. That's when a light bulb went off
and I realized that's the kind of thing I should have been taking a
stab at all along! Dark mood driven cinematic music with no real
necessity to follow a predictable pattern, rhythm or theme.
Soundtracks to films that don't exist. Of course! I totally wanted
Mombi Yuleman to represent my own unique take on this whole cinematic
dark ambient thing, and dropped dance music altogether under the
Mombi name.
Casey: In an
interview with horror writer David Allen Voyles, you discussed your
Witch-Works album, saying that ever since you got your first
synthesizer, you always wanted to make an album like Witch-Works,
and then adding that you could probably die happy having now made it.
That’s quite a statement! When you listen back to Witch-Works,
which elements are you the most fulfilled by, the components that you
listen to and know that you nailed it. Also, which pieces of
equipment do you most enjoy playing with when it comes to your music
creation?
Mombi: Yes, as
mentioned, I love listening to film scores, and to the film scores of
John Carpenter, specifically the ones where he collaborated with Alan
Howarth, had a sound that I was fond of more than any other synth
based soundtrack artist at the time. I wanted to compose a soundtrack
with a Halloween theme that was in alignment with that same sound but
give it my own spin and incorporate some subtle orchestral and
industrial elements here and there. I tip my hat to some other horror
composers in that one but it's mostly John Carpenter influenced. Jars
of Spiders, Dance of the Scarecrows and Through the Pumpkin Swamp are
certainly tracks I feel particularly fond of. Leaves is also a
sorrowful track that I feel really embraces some of my own inner
turmoil.
I really only work
with VST's rather than hardware synths, even though I had a Roland
JP-8000 for years but it was unfortunately damaged during one of my
many moves. I use Omnisphere in almost all of my work. There's just
so much I love about the sounds within that magnificent synth. I tend
to use a lot of programs by Native Instruments as well, the Symphony
Series comes to my aid where appropriate. I lack the knowledge on how
to orchestrate full blown symphonies, but using those instruments as
elements with a soundtrack or a dark ambient album is so much fun.
Casey: In one of
your YouTube videos, you said that you make music because you feel
that your life depends on it, with the spectre of Obsessive
Compulsive Disorder (OCD) looming over you. What are some of the ways
that your OCD has manifested in the past, and is your creative
practise a refuge from the OCD, or does it sometimes encroach on your
music composing as well? I ask as a fellow OCD sufferer, and for me,
OCD always seems to attach to the things that I care about.
Mombi: OCD made
itself manifest in my life at a very young age. It started out by
washing my hands over and over. Eventually as years passed, guilt
over intrusive thoughts had me performing seemingly bizarre rituals
over and over, like running up and down stairs, or I'd stare at walls
for hours while I think a certain pattern of thoughts in a particular
arrangement, until it felt right to let them go. I spent the majority
of my teen years going through this. It wasn't until my early
twenties, when I left the town I grew up in that the extreme side of
OCD started to lose it's grasp. When I discovered that I no longer
felt a need to have religion in my life, things got a lot better as
well.
Though I still suffer
forms of OCD, it's not nearly as bad as it used to be and I mostly
deal with anxiety and the occasional existential crisis these days.
There are times where OCD rears it's ugly head during the production
process, to some degree it's beneficial. I'm never completely
satisfied with my work. I often re-render files over and over to get
them to where I feel they are just right, when perhaps the sounds
were perfectly fine before. But this is also where I feel OCD
benefits me to some degree, as long as I'm not tearing my hair out
over it. A lot of work goes into an album and my OCD mostly seems to
help me strive to be better for the most part. If it gets out of hand
and I'm stressing too much, I recognize this and I take a break from
making music altogether. I try to come back to it with fresh ears and
usually it's not nearly as bad as I thought it was. I am often quite
pleased with where I ended up after I've taken breaks.
Casey: I’m a
big fan of taking breaks from creative work too. I’ve lost count of
the number of times that I’ve hated something I’ve written, but
after returning to it with a clearer head, I often wonder why I was
so critical of it. You mentioned religion, which I know can be a
miserable subject to OCD sufferers that happen to suffer with
scrupulosity issues. Which religion did you engage with or belong to,
and how do you think this interacted with your OCD tendencies? I know
that when I was struggling with my OCD at one of my worst points, my
interest/mild belief in the occult wasn't particularly helpful. I
still have a mild belief/interest, but I'm now more interested in
perspectives that simplify or ease my life, rather than make it more
complicated!
Mombi: I grew up
in a very traditional southern baptist Christian bubble. The fear of
Hell was instilled in me at a very young age. The idea of eternity in
Hell really messed with me and I'm so happy I became a free thinker
in my mid twenties. I understand how if you're constantly validated
in a fear-based belief system by your family and friends it's nearly
impossible to leave that. A belief system that makes you feel guilty
for questioning it can be extremely hard to turn your back on.
When I left religion
behind a lot of my OCD left with it. I was no longer afraid of
constantly offending a deity I no longer had faith in and I'm so much
happier for it. I love philosophy and obviously have an affinity for
the occult. Though, because of the monumental task of overcoming the
Christian belief system, I've learned to question everything and
raise an eyebrow to anything that relies on me having to have faith.
Existence, reality, consciousness and the cosmos are a true wonder to
behold. Religion, to me, dumbs it down. Reality is much stranger and
much more marvellous than fiction!
Casey: In the
same YouTube video in which you mentioned your life depending on your
music creation, you also mentioned that you are an introvert and that
music is your way of communicating with people. What do you hope to
communicate, by way of your music, and does the music sometimes
reflect something back to you that you didn’t know about yourself
previously?
Mombi: In group
settings, I don't know how to really communicate. People can be going
back and forth and I just don't know how to chime in. I'm the quiet
one in a group and I prefer to listen whilst forming and keeping
opinions to myself. Creating music gives me a way to boldly speak in
a way an extrovert might. I hope the feelings evoked in the music can
bring about thoughts that are both fantastic and relatable to those
who listen. As in the case of my album, Storm-Maker Red Horse,
I had the idea of an album where the subject matter was about a
perpetual storm where a tornado just continued to grow and ravished
the land until who knows when, as the listener becomes a victim
themselves by the end of it. Indeed though, this particular album was
much more about my own inner turmoil, depression and uncertainty that
I was going through at the time. I do feel like there are folks who
can listen to that one and relate to the chaos within.
Certainly
there are themes and melodies that are born that I didn't know I've
had in me but are very reflective of me upon listening. There's one
in particular, a favourite progressive piece of mine written for an
abandoned album concept and now I just can't figure out what to
release it on. It starts out bombastic, goes into drone, then turns
into a piano piece. Truly very progressive cinematic stuff and one
that is very "me" that I had no idea was in me. It's been
waiting to be released for years but I won't release it until it
neatly fits on an EP or album or something. But for the most part,
I'd say that I feel more relief that I'm actually able to finally get
some of these sounds and melodies out of my head and into the world.
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Thanks again to Mombi
for providing such fascinating and in-depth answers to my questions.
If you’d like to check out Mombi’s music, you can find him on
Bandcamp and YouTube, among other places. You might also like to join
his Facebook Group: Unearthing Your Internal Monsters, a group
created to bring anyone who struggles with life, and who uses their
creative endeavours to cope with it, together.